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Thread: Survey for legal review of Section 7A of the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesonTwice View Post
    Your first two points just contradict each other. How can you argue that there's am increase in attacks and then say it's less likely for attacks to be reported. Makes absolutely no sense.
    The 92% was not reported to the Gardai!
    Those numbers were based off of reports Sex Workers made to Ugly Mugs and SWAI.
    You wont know, until you try!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janko View Post
    2-4 girls sharing makes them safer is total rubbish so wont wash, just the clients suiting themselves really

    An escort working alone in her place and doing her checks will be much safer than sharing a place with several other girls, no excuses ,safe from both these violent traffickers, pimps and also safe from the Law so use some common sense
    no your refusal to see the obviousness of safety in numbers is the real rubbish here
    its no coincidence that the likes of this scum targeted escorts working alone

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crim...utes-1.3973368

    but hey,you seem to have your own agenda at work here,so carry on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagane00 View Post
    The 92% was not reported to the Gardai!
    Those numbers were based off of reports Sex Workers made to Ugly Mugs and SWAI.
    Link please, cos I can't find anywhere in the article or the SWAI website where this statistic is based off. 98% of people have agreed with my point.
    Last edited by JamesonTwice; 02-08-20 at 16:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janko View Post
    Rubbish you speak here, you have not a clue and you are not being genuine, why don't you explain your reason for telling this starting with why you can't report Trafficking, I was a Client and had no difficulty at all reporting so explain
    It is a criminal offence to procure sex right now, when you find yourself in a situation you weren't expecting in terms of the escorts demeanour or even the lady telling you you in code what's happening the only thing you can do is give her some advice and walk away. Calling the cops opens you up to a cheap prosecution, they can check your phone and put one and one together fairly simply.
    Like the majority of clients I have no interest in meeting a trafficked escort, I guarantee more dodgy operations would be identified if legitimate sex work was decriminalised, all legitimate participants could engage the authorities without fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesonTwice View Post
    Link please, cos I can't find anywhere in the article or the SWAI website where this statistic is based off. 98% of people have agreed with my point.
    Here you go:
    https://uglymugs.ie/wp-content/uploa...6-mar-2019.pdf

    And here's the article from Sex Workers Alliance Ireland where I got that link.
    https://sexworkersallianceireland.or...oming-forward/
    You wont know, until you try!

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    Read the dreadful case of the Romanian girl in England last week.She confided in a punter who gave her a phone which she used to alert her parents in Romania who in turn ,via the Romanian police ,contacted U.K. police.The pimps got heavy sentences and she returned, pregnant to Romania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mij View Post
    It is a criminal offence to procure sex right now, when you find yourself in a situation you weren't expecting in terms of the escorts demeanour or even the lady telling you you in code what's happening the only thing you can do is give her some advice and walk away. Calling the cops opens you up to a cheap prosecution, they can check your phone and put one and one together fairly simply.
    Like the majority of clients I have no interest in meeting a trafficked escort, I guarantee more dodgy operations would be identified if legitimate sex work was decriminalised, all legitimate participants could engage the authorities without fear.
    so, we know its a criminal offence, its has been for many years now but how does that stop you from reporting Trafficking, its doesn't, its only an excuse not to get involved.
    Give who advice? Reporting opens the client up to no cheap prosecution at all and they have no interest in checking your phone so please stop giving incorrect and dangerous advice on here and scaring others clients into not reporting. I have reported many to correct dept and they were handled professionally and were courteous and had never one single problem
    Nothing you said is true and your other points are not either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forceuser View Post
    no your refusal to see the obviousness of safety in numbers is the real rubbish here
    its no coincidence that the likes of this scum targeted escorts working alone

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crim...utes-1.3973368

    but hey,you seem to have your own agenda at work here,so carry on
    not true, safety in numbers not true as we have seen in many cases where most of the attacks were on 2 and 3 and do you really think the traffickers or pimps care about how many girls are there. NO.
    you are much safer when you work alone and do the proper checks and screening on who is visiting you as many smart escorts are doing now. You need to have 100% total control over what goes on in your working environment to be safe, you certainly won't have that if sharing with others, its not possible and won't happen
    How can you properly screen clients if you are sharing with 2-3 other escorts so what you say makes no sense at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagane00 View Post
    Here you go:
    https://uglymugs.ie/wp-content/uploa...6-mar-2019.pdf

    And here's the article from Sex Workers Alliance Ireland where I got that link.
    https://sexworkersallianceireland.or...oming-forward/
    Thanks, not sure how much credence I'd place in their figures.

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    I think a lot of people don't understand what trafficking is and could end up getting her in trouble by reporting her and then get raided and cancelling all appointments whilst she is dealing with the police which would be especially scary for a foreigner.

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