Can we have a definition of human trafficking please?

[Davidontour]

OK so I'm a bit dim. Up until fairly recently I'd assumed that 'human trafficking' meant bringing someone into a country against their will and forcing them to work for little or no pay. And I think that's a fairly common view.

Since then I've been informed by a chap in Stormont that giving a sex worker a lift from one place to another is actually trafficking. And that there are lots of trafficked women right here chained to radiators and forced to service multiple clients a day. Though apparently the police can't find them but clients can. Confusing.

So now a guy in Sweden has been given six months for human trafficking. Yet reading the actual facts of the case (link below), this guy gave six asylum seekers from Eritrea a lift in his car. No suggestions of coercion. So while he did commit a crime (attempting to smuggle illegal immigrants for payment), I'd suggest that most of the public wouldn't regard this as human trafficking.

http://www.thelocal.se/20140709/wedd...or-trafficking

I would suggest that by defining these type of cases as trafficking, actual victims of real human trafficking are being done a huge diservice and the public are being greatly misled.

[zoozoozoo]

OK so I'm a bit dim. Up until fairly recently I'd assumed that 'human trafficking' meant bringing someone into a country against their will and forcing them to work for little or no pay. And I think that's a fairly common view.

Since then I've been informed by a chap in Stormont that giving a sex worker a lift from one place to another is actually trafficking. And that there are lots of trafficked women right here chained to radiators and forced to service multiple clients a day. Though apparently the police can't find them but clients can. Confusing.

So now a guy in Sweden has been given six months for human trafficking. Yet reading the actual facts of the case (link below), this guy gave six asylum seekers from Eritrea a lift in his car. No suggestions of coercion. So while he did commit a crime (attempting to smuggle illegal immigrants for payment), I'd suggest that most of the public wouldn't regard this as human trafficking.

http://www.thelocal.se/20140709/wedd...or-trafficking

I would suggest that by defining these type of cases as trafficking, actual victims of real human trafficking are being done a huge diservice and the public are being greatly misled.

Once money is brought into it then it becomes complicated , the law can be very black and white but mostly judges and legal system have some common sense - a taxi man that knows a woman is an escort and takes her from one hotel to another hotel could be a human traffickeer

[Empirical]

Common sense might suggest that trafficking involves coercion, deception, and is carried out across borders.

The original definition was in the Palermo declaration, which included coercion and deception.

The UK legislation, as far as I know, seems to mean the transport of a person (though I presume that there must be some sort of intent); it's certainly possible to traffick someone inside the UK, and again, I don't think that coercion (force) is necessary. In other words, trafficking is quite loosely defined in law.

I don't know the exact law in RoI.

There's more here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protoc...n_and_Children

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking

both of which make reference to the Palermo declaration.

[The Libertarian]

I suspect that in so far as it happens here at all, sex trafficking maybe within African and Chinese communities and specific to some sex workers predominantly or exclusively used by them! Let's put one thing out there, the proposed insanity of the Paddy Anti sex worker Model, will do absolutely nothing to solve it where it exists and actually would probably increase it or up the effects of it on those enslaved under it, not that TORLER HATEFUL SCUM CARE! Also let's have it established that punters who are in my experience decent human beings are one of the best defences out there against this most evil of practices, through intelligence that they can provide on suspicious circumstances - that's only common sense!
Why not also push for sensible law changes -attacks on sex workers and other vulnerable people to come under hate laws, which would carry substantial extra tariffs and I would suggest compulsory life sentences for trafficking, hey, if you can get potentially a life sentence for mugging somebody or malicious damage to property, well why not for enslaving other human beings! Also punters trying to engage with workers who cannot give consent due to being directly under the influence of drugs/alcohol or those interacting with underage people to face substantial legal consequences!
In wonder with the proposed Paddy anti sex worker model, are we at a level where Michael O'Leary would absurdly face charges of trafficking/assisting in prostitution because his airline might have brought a sex worker of her own choice here from Eastern Europe, even though he would know nothing about it in reality and taxi drivers ferrying consenting sex workers, however unwittingly would be in the same boat, that's how insane this madness is and worse!